Comments on: Who’s Going to Subic? http://thebullrunner.com/2008/01/19/whos-going-to-subic/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:32:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mark http://thebullrunner.com/2008/01/19/whos-going-to-subic/#comment-1542 Mark Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:24:44 +0000 http://thebullrunner.com/2008/01/19/whos-going-to-subic/#comment-1542 Nyek, I just ordered Yankz in Amazon. Glad I read your reply, I was shocked to see other items in included for shipping. All is well now, got those cancelled except for the Yankz. Nope, they're not new running shoes. Im still waiting for Asics speedstar 3 coming this June. : ) I cant find any info on BOA Constrictors. A quick search in google gives me info on snakes. Its not even on chrissports.net I did find this though http://www.boatechnology.com Not sure if that's what they're selling. I cant say that I would be better off drafting behind a woman. She might be insulted by my assumption that she's wider than me. hehehe I was actually looking for bigger runners so I can just hide behind them. Wind kinda picked up at some point during the climb. Hmm, if I did draft behind a woman and did get slapped that would have been a first. It would be hard to make her believe that I wasnt staring. hehehehe But the guy would've punched me too. This is silly, no more drafting next time. Not sure if it works anyway. Does it have any effect on efficiency? Based on my garmin, we climbed 40m 60m 60m 40m. 4 climbs for a guy who didnt train for it is more than a handful. So congrats to all those who finished the rather longer than usual race. I was just happy to be safe at the finish line. : ) Nyek, I just ordered Yankz in Amazon. Glad I read your reply, I was shocked to see other items in included for shipping. All is well now, got those cancelled except for the Yankz. Nope, they’re not new running shoes. Im still waiting for Asics speedstar 3 coming this June. : )

I cant find any info on BOA Constrictors. A quick search in google gives me info on snakes. Its not even on chrissports.net I did find this though http://www.boatechnology.com Not sure if that’s what they’re selling.

I cant say that I would be better off drafting behind a woman. She might be insulted by my assumption that she’s wider than me. hehehe I was actually looking for bigger runners so I can just hide behind them. Wind kinda picked up at some point during the climb. Hmm, if I did draft behind a woman and did get slapped that would have been a first. It would be hard to make her believe that I wasnt staring. hehehehe But the guy would’ve punched me too. This is silly, no more drafting next time. Not sure if it works anyway. Does it have any effect on efficiency?

Based on my garmin, we climbed 40m 60m 60m 40m. 4 climbs for a guy who didnt train for it is more than a handful. So congrats to all those who finished the rather longer than usual race. I was just happy to be safe at the finish line. : )

]]> By: bullrunner http://thebullrunner.com/2008/01/19/whos-going-to-subic/#comment-1541 bullrunner Tue, 22 Jan 2008 02:17:55 +0000 http://thebullrunner.com/2008/01/19/whos-going-to-subic/#comment-1541 Marga, my new word for the day---caterwauling. Thanks for expanding my vocabulary! haha. As for Subic, I think whenever they use the word "international" in their race, we tend to expect much more from them. At least I did at clark hence my disappointment. I just hope all race organizers learn from their mistakes and make significant improvements in future races. Kawawa naman tayong runners diba? Mark, a friend gave me Boa Constrictors similar to Yankz. It's available at Chris sports for P135. Glad you still enjoyed the race...and the fruit bats! I'm assuming you were running behind a man when you got too close. Had that been a woman you might have gotten not just a stare but a slap too! haha Beni, that must've been an awesome sight. I hope they didn't poop on runners though. haha Marga, my new word for the day—caterwauling. Thanks for expanding my vocabulary! haha. As for Subic, I think whenever they use the word “international” in their race, we tend to expect much more from them. At least I did at clark hence my disappointment. I just hope all race organizers learn from their mistakes and make significant improvements in future races. Kawawa naman tayong runners diba?

Mark, a friend gave me Boa Constrictors similar to Yankz. It’s available at Chris sports for P135. Glad you still enjoyed the race…and the fruit bats! I’m assuming you were running behind a man when you got too close. Had that been a woman you might have gotten not just a stare but a slap too! haha

Beni, that must’ve been an awesome sight. I hope they didn’t poop on runners though. haha

]]> By: Beni Ancheta-Veloso http://thebullrunner.com/2008/01/19/whos-going-to-subic/#comment-1540 Beni Ancheta-Veloso Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:29:04 +0000 http://thebullrunner.com/2008/01/19/whos-going-to-subic/#comment-1540 Hi Jaymie Another positive: seeing those fruit bats flying in the TRIBOA area was magnificent! All of the runners were in awe. Buti nalang I was slow...I had more airtime with the bats. Another negative: Race started late. Beni Hi Jaymie
Another positive: seeing those fruit bats flying in the TRIBOA area was magnificent! All of the runners were in awe. Buti nalang I was slow…I had more airtime with the bats.

Another negative: Race started late.

Beni

]]> By: Mark http://thebullrunner.com/2008/01/19/whos-going-to-subic/#comment-1527 Mark Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:21:38 +0000 http://thebullrunner.com/2008/01/19/whos-going-to-subic/#comment-1527 Dulce! Hahahaha (Natawa talaga ako as I read your post) Too bad, I didnt hear her sing. I got there 2 minutes before the start. I forgot to bring my old alarm clock but my Treo did wake me up. After checking in (quick signature by an official), I attempted to tighten my laces. The last 4 minutes (as announced by the official) suddenly sped up to the last 10 seconds. So I just had to do tie my laces as fast as I could. Well, I wasn't fast enough. Do you know if the Yankz lace system is available locally? http://yankz.com/ Lock lace is the other brand. I just checked with the local stores and they dont have it. Despite the negative feedback I posted earlier, I enjoyed the race! It was my first 21km and seeing the Kenyans run together with our elite is one of the highlights. I was also amazed by the number of fruit bats flying over the trees. I've never seen so many bats! The uphill portion zapped most of our leg power. I tried drafting but the runner in front would look at me with this "what are you doing behind my back" stare. I did get too close. hehehe It would have been a funny kodak moment. I dont know if it really made it easier to climb or it was his pace that made me go as fast as him. Dulce! Hahahaha (Natawa talaga ako as I read your post) Too bad, I didnt hear her sing. I got there 2 minutes before the start. I forgot to bring my old alarm clock but my Treo did wake me up. After checking in (quick signature by an official), I attempted to tighten my laces. The last 4 minutes (as announced by the official) suddenly sped up to the last 10 seconds. So I just had to do tie my laces as fast as I could. Well, I wasn’t fast enough.

Do you know if the Yankz lace system is available locally? http://yankz.com/ Lock lace is the other brand. I just checked with the local stores and they dont have it.

Despite the negative feedback I posted earlier, I enjoyed the race! It was my first 21km and seeing the Kenyans run together with our elite is one of the highlights. I was also amazed by the number of fruit bats flying over the trees. I’ve never seen so many bats! The uphill portion zapped most of our leg power. I tried drafting but the runner in front would look at me with this “what are you doing behind my back” stare. I did get too close. hehehe It would have been a funny kodak moment. I dont know if it really made it easier to climb or it was his pace that made me go as fast as him.

]]> By: marga http://thebullrunner.com/2008/01/19/whos-going-to-subic/#comment-1539 marga Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:50:54 +0000 http://thebullrunner.com/2008/01/19/whos-going-to-subic/#comment-1539 Ugh, the Subic Marathon wasn't one of the best races I've been to. So many kids required to run who actually just walked. I wouldn't really mind much, but they walked in herds and were just plain sagabal. I don't really know who Dulce is, but being squashed in the midst of sooo many people (halu-halo ang 3, 5, 10, and 21k runners) while she's caterwauling gave me a migraine. No offense to Dulce fans. They could have done a better job. It was an international race, after all. 5k was actually 6.2 - 6.5k. But I was a happy happy pepe because my PR was good. All the annoying stuff before the race faded away. (But I still have to scratch my itch to b*tch about this) Clark was way better, IMO. And being with the h@ppyfeet and team Air Force people was priceless. Great company turns a bad start into a good one. :D Ugh, the Subic Marathon wasn’t one of the best races I’ve been to. So many kids required to run who actually just walked. I wouldn’t really mind much, but they walked in herds and were just plain sagabal.

I don’t really know who Dulce is, but being squashed in the midst of sooo many people (halu-halo ang 3, 5, 10, and 21k runners) while she’s caterwauling gave me a migraine. No offense to Dulce fans.

They could have done a better job. It was an international race, after all.

5k was actually 6.2 – 6.5k. But I was a happy happy pepe because my PR was good. All the annoying stuff before the race faded away. (But I still have to scratch my itch to b*tch about this)

Clark was way better, IMO. And being with the h@ppyfeet and team Air Force people was priceless. Great company turns a bad start into a good one. :D

]]> By: bullrunner http://thebullrunner.com/2008/01/19/whos-going-to-subic/#comment-1538 bullrunner Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:34:23 +0000 http://thebullrunner.com/2008/01/19/whos-going-to-subic/#comment-1538 Let's see. NEGATIVES: Half marathon was actually 24km. No water stations beyond 14km. Seeming absence of medical care on the course and difficulty in locating medical tent. No water at the finish line. POSITIVES: Dulce. Pocari sweat. Watching the kenyans. Hmmm...sounds like there's room for a lot of improvement for next year's race. I hope you still had a lot of fun running despite all the issues. Let’s see.

NEGATIVES: Half marathon was actually 24km. No water stations beyond 14km. Seeming absence of medical care on the course and difficulty in locating medical tent. No water at the finish line.

POSITIVES: Dulce. Pocari sweat. Watching the kenyans.

Hmmm…sounds like there’s room for a lot of improvement for next year’s race. I hope you still had a lot of fun running despite all the issues.

]]> By: Chaia http://thebullrunner.com/2008/01/19/whos-going-to-subic/#comment-1526 Chaia Mon, 21 Jan 2008 05:32:29 +0000 http://thebullrunner.com/2008/01/19/whos-going-to-subic/#comment-1526 You were missed TBR! amendments to the comments on the race 1. yes looks like all the distances are longer... just running the 10km and a marshall was shouting last 500 meters but then hoping i reach the finish line it was forever! Just the oval track we have to run 200m so definitely the other 300m on the road was more! 2. No medical tent in the area... you will need to go look and ask the Police where it is until they point you the mobile rescue van. You were missed TBR!

amendments to the comments on the race
1. yes looks like all the distances are longer… just running the 10km and a marshall was shouting last 500 meters but then hoping i reach the finish line it was forever! Just the oval track we have to run 200m so definitely the other 300m on the road was more!

2. No medical tent in the area… you will need to go look and ask the Police where it is until they point you the mobile rescue van.

]]> By: Mark http://thebullrunner.com/2008/01/19/whos-going-to-subic/#comment-1528 Mark Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:19:20 +0000 http://thebullrunner.com/2008/01/19/whos-going-to-subic/#comment-1528 Jaymie, Kindly insert the motionbased link above. http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/4816622 : ) Its a free service. Im curious to see your stats during the Clark run. Can you upload as well? Jaymie,

Kindly insert the motionbased link above. http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/4816622

: )

Its a free service. Im curious to see your stats during the Clark run. Can you upload as well?

]]> By: Mark http://thebullrunner.com/2008/01/19/whos-going-to-subic/#comment-1531 Mark Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:17:35 +0000 http://thebullrunner.com/2008/01/19/whos-going-to-subic/#comment-1531 Ok, just uploaded my data at motionbased. I believe the distance computed by the site based from waypoints I've sent is more accurate. Subic 21km is really 23.81km. Comments on the race 1. Why didnt we receive any instruction or a set of rules in the race packet? The girl who released my packet told me to be there by 4am. Im glad I asked Lala for the other details and she confirmed it the afternoon before race day. 2. Water stations were nowhere in site after 14km. One station we passed ran out of water too. I saw some runners suffer cramps and 2 collapsed. Could it be from dehydration? 3. There were no motorcycle riders from the race committee to immediately attend to those who needed medical care. 4. 2 loops were given at 2 points before the 11 or 12 km turn. No loops during the turn. Not quite sure how they can tell if you did go the very end of the lap. 5. No water available at the finish line, only Pocari Sweat. 6. Huge discrepancy in distance covered by runners versus what was declared. Whats so difficult in getting the distance right? Ok, just uploaded my data at motionbased. I believe the distance computed by the site based from waypoints I’ve sent is more accurate.

Subic 21km is really 23.81km.

Comments on the race

1. Why didnt we receive any instruction or a set of rules in the race packet? The girl who released my packet told me to be there by 4am. Im glad I asked Lala for the other details and she confirmed it the afternoon before race day.

2. Water stations were nowhere in site after 14km. One station we passed ran out of water too. I saw some runners suffer cramps and 2 collapsed. Could it be from dehydration?

3. There were no motorcycle riders from the race committee to immediately attend to those who needed medical care.

4. 2 loops were given at 2 points before the 11 or 12 km turn. No loops during the turn. Not quite sure how they can tell if you did go the very end of the lap.

5. No water available at the finish line, only Pocari Sweat.

6. Huge discrepancy in distance covered by runners versus what was declared. Whats so difficult in getting the distance right?

]]> By: Mark http://thebullrunner.com/2008/01/19/whos-going-to-subic/#comment-1530 Mark Sun, 20 Jan 2008 12:52:44 +0000 http://thebullrunner.com/2008/01/19/whos-going-to-subic/#comment-1530 Yes its actually 23.57 kilometers! That's according to my garmin forerunner 305. Most runners had slower times. The winner for the ladies 42k had a time of 3:20 plus. Clark's lady winner only did it in 3 hours. So instead of 42, it must have been 47. I read Bald runner's blog. With a time of 2:12 for 23.57km, he's sub 2 hours for sure for 21km. As for me, its my very first 21km run. I did a 2:04.17 and a 2:20.59 for the 23.57km. Im glad I brought my fuel belt along. Imagine no water stations past 14km! Yes its actually 23.57 kilometers! That’s according to my garmin forerunner 305. Most runners had slower times. The winner for the ladies 42k had a time of 3:20 plus. Clark’s lady winner only did it in 3 hours. So instead of 42, it must have been 47.

I read Bald runner’s blog. With a time of 2:12 for 23.57km, he’s sub 2 hours for sure for 21km. As for me, its my very first 21km run. I did a 2:04.17 and a 2:20.59 for the 23.57km.

Im glad I brought my fuel belt along. Imagine no water stations past 14km!

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